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What is OBD? Is that the onboard display? Basically where the clock is? I have a 318i.. and I don't have many options on there. But a friend of mine has an M3.. his has everything. Is this where the sensors display information? Will any of the M3 OBD's work automatically with my car? Or do I have to get more in order get warning messages?
 

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OBD means On Board Diagnostic, and this refers to the transfer of data throughout the car. Your OBC (On Board Computer - what you mentioned) deals with OBD, in that it tells you what is wrong (if anything) with your car.
 

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I'm making an assumption in saying you own an E36 (1992-1998). I'm not too sure on E36s, but depending on the year, you will either have an OBD I or OBD II system. I believe OBD I and OBD II differ in their sensors and the locations for them, etc. I am, unfortunately, unsure if you can directly swap the OBC from a 318 and an M3. Theoretically, I see it as a possiblity, but I don't see the point. Can anyone else with familiarity to this subject assist?
 

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sorry.. you're right.. i have a 93 318i (e36).. I'm just curious cuz i see on other boards that people are selling their OBD's and OBCs.. i just assumed these are for upgrading..
 

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I'm not sure of upgrades that can be performed with OBDs, other than switching from OBD I to OBD II, to which I am unaware of what that would do. I hope someone else that can assist does, and we can get a resolution. [:)]
 
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OBDI and OBDII are VERY Different and cannot be swapped. You cannot swap out OBD in general (have it work and be emissions legal, that is). It is designed for a particular engine/model year. For example, It's possible that a 95 and 96 325 might be interchangable, but I can almost guarantee that you cannot swap a 318 for a 325. It might physically hook up if all the sensors are the same, but OBD is a program. It expects certain sensors to return specific values, etc. which would be different due to engine size, etc. Usually, if someone does an ENGINE swap they will swap the OBD/ECM, wiring harness, etc. to kept it working as a unit.

A 318 <-> M3 swap is very unlikely to work. Isn't the 318 a 4 cylinder? No way would that work.

The primary, official purpose of OBD (On Board Diagnostic) is to monitor emissions controls and provide a technician with the information to repair a faulty emission control device. This was mandated by the Federal Government in the early 80s. It then evolved, also by government mandate, into OBDII.

As technology has evolved, manufacturers added additional features and functions to the OBD computer. In many cases, the ECM (Engine Control Module) was added into the same electronics package as OBD. Some manufacturers made the ECM a separate unit, but it communicates with the OBD. Again, the OBD is mainly the diagnostic interface. You could have other computer modules in the car for engine control, air bags, security, etc. The OBD may talk to all of these, and they may be in one package, or three. It is REQUIRED to provide emissions diagnostics in standard formats - everything else is up to the manufacturer.

Used OBD/ECMs are sold usually because they are:
1. Left over after an engine swap.
2. Left over after an upgrade (usually you send your old one back as a core).
3. Hardcore performance tuners eliminate the OBD/ECM, usually for racing.
3. Part of a wrecked car being parted out.
 


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